Chapter 192: Possibility of going to the East
After receiving the Bishop of Fulda, Julius II remembered a very important issue, called Marin alone, and had a close talk.
"Marin, you just said, your teacher Einstein, have you been to the East?"
"Yes, I've really been to the East, and told me everything about the East!" Marin said seriously.
"So ... what do you think, how about we send someone to the Ming Empire to preach?" Julius II looked hopeful. Is there anything more important than missionary to a man like him who became a pope?
"Not very good!" Marin said affirmatively. As a talented student in the history department, Marin knew that the early spread of Catholicism in the Ming Dynasty was a failure.
"Why?" Julius II asked wonderingly. In his eyes, the glory of God should cover the world.
"There are three major issues, which are very important. If it is not resolved, I would not recommend missioning to the Ming Empire!" Marin said very seriously.
"Which three big questions?" Julius II asked with interest.
"First, in the Ming empire, imperial power is paramount, and no forces above the imperial power are allowed. Catholics must go to the Ming empire, they must first submit to the imperial power, otherwise do not want to spread." This is also the most fundamental one. The early Catholic missionaries had suffered enough and were expelled many times because of the gang of two stunners who believed that the imperial power should not interfere with the divine power.
"This is impossible. How could the servants of God accept the leadership of the secular forces?" Julius II was immediately dissatisfied. In Europe, even the emperor must be respectful when he is seen, and the priests are detached from the world. How can they succumb to the imperial power ...
"This is the case of the Ming empire, my father-in-law, Europe is Europe, Asia is Asia. Don't take European habits to demand Asians, otherwise, the mission will fail!"
"Don't the servants of God still serve mortal monarchs?" Julius II was angry.
"If you do not succumb to the imperial power, in the Ming Empire, your missionary will be killed!" Marin said affirmatively.
"How dare they?"
"Only they have millions of troops!" Marin said lightly.
During this period, the Ming Dynasty was still in a period of prosperity. What's more, there are great gods such as Wang Yangming in China, and no one wants to blast in front of the powerful Ming Dynasty. Even in the weak period at the end of Ming Dynasty, the Dutch failed to please.
Julius II was silent, and after thinking for a long time, he asked:
"What about the other two big problems?"
"The problem of worshiping ancestors! Catholics are only allowed to worship gods, not others. However, the Orientals emphasized worshipping ancestors and worshipping ancestors. If missionaries forbid them to worship ancestors, the government will directly arrest the missionaries!" Cases that really happened during the Ming Dynasty.
Julius II was silent for a while, saying:
"What about third?"
"The third point can't be said on the table, but it's very important ... Specifically, Catholicism only allows monogamy. And from the Ming Empire to the emperor, to the people, many people have multiple wives ..."
"This is unreasonable. How can they indulge their desires so much?"
"If you object to them marrying multiple wives, even if you are the pope, those people will hack you without hesitation!" Marin said affirmatively.
Julius II choked, and he also felt that things were more complicated than he thought. Not to mention, these three problems are in serious conflict with the teachings. And Marin also said that once these three rules are broken, the Eastern Court will raise the butcher knife without hesitation ...
"Oh, for the first one, I have a supplement ..." Marin seemed to think of something and said.
"What supplement?"
"The Catholic doctrine says" Everyone is equal under God ". Don't take this sentence to the Ming Empire ..."
"why?"
"The Eastern Empire is a highly hierarchical country, and it is impossible for everyone to be equal. The doctrine says that" Everyone is equal ", which is equivalent to touching the bottom line of the Eastern court, which violates the principle of" the supremacy of the king ". "Everyone is equal", missionaries are deported or imprisoned, or beheaded directly ... "
Julius II took a breath and said:
"The Eastern countries are so scary and dark?"
"It's not terrible and dark, but the rules there are different from ours ..."
"Then what do you mean, is it not suitable for missions in the Ming Empire?"
"Yes, not very suitable. Unless, you are willing to work around ..."
"How to work around?"
"First, respect the imperial power and the hierarchical system of the East, and never say" Everyone is equal "under God!"
Julius II's complexion became ugly, which was equivalent to giving up basic teachings.
"Second, allow believers to worship their ancestors and maintain certain traditional customs!"
Julius II's face was even more ugly ...
"Third, allow polygamy ..."
"Don't say it! I would never agree to such a compromise!" Julius II shouted, which is a compromise? It is clear that the basic teachings are being modified ...
"Don't go preaching without compromise, otherwise, all your missionaries will become wanted criminals of the Ming Dynasty ..."
"What you said must be false, lie to me, right?" Julius II asked hopefully. How he hoped that Marin's words lied to him ...
"No, the sentence is true! No adultery!"
"Oh, no! Do I just watch the tens of millions of people not bathed in the glory of God?" Julius II felt some pain.
"No, not tens of millions, 110 million people!" Marin reminded kindly.
Then Julius II was even more painful ...
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This is also impossible. Do n’t look at the fact that there are many Christians in the world afterwards. That is because, after the revolution, the domestic feudal hierarchy was completely eliminated. Moreover, the law also provides for monogamy. In this way, two of the three major problems have been solved. As for the worship of ancestors, later generations also regard it as a form, which is no longer valued so much. Therefore, there is a foundation for the spread of Christianity.
But in ancient times, during the feudal dynasty, Catholicism could not be successfully spread in China. At most, fooling around a small number of people. Most of those ruling classes will not accept it. As for the emperor Nanming's religious belief in history, he was forced to jump to the wall before he converted to Catholicism.
But a principle of "monogamy" will let the eastern ruling class fry. Propaganda of "Equality for All" is definitely an itchy head, looking for a cut ...
Therefore, during the reign of the Chinese feudal dynasty, the Catholic Church was destined to live only a small number of people ...
As for the Manchu period, there were missionaries mixed into the palace. It was when the Emperor of Qing Dynasty regarded those missionaries as foreign monks and saw them as rare things. To put it more bluntly, the missionaries who entered the palace were all "pets" raised by the emperor ... The emperor used their knowledge of mathematics, astronomy, and painting ~ www.wuxiaspot.com ~ but after using it, he will never Officials support their missions and only allow them to engage in private ...
Marin's words gave Julius II a huge blow. However, Julius II decided that one day, after Marin opened the route of the Ming Empire, he took a few missionaries from the Holy See to take a look at the Ming Empire and give it a try. Otherwise, he will never be reconciled ...
In fact, what Marin said was also quite absolute. During the Ming Dynasty, there were also missionaries who succeeded. However, those successful missionaries have deliberately ignored the above three major issues and deliberately avoided cultural conflicts. Some even put on Confucian clothes, pretending to be Confucian students such as Matteo Ricci, to have a good relationship with the Chinese scholars. However, such preaching has actually violated the original intention of the Catholic Church and has little meaning.
Moreover, Marin knew that his father-in-law Julius II was the famous "God of War" and was a tough man. Such a compromise against doctrine was clearly unwilling for Julius II. Therefore, Marin is not optimistic about preaching to the Ming Empire ...
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